the presidential term of david rice atchison today, of all days, you should think of his legacy. apparently, the story is history that will never repeat itself. thank you so much for watching "state of the union" i'm candy crowley in on the national mall in washington. head to cnn.com/sotu for analysis and extras. if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes, just search state of the union. cnn's coverage of president obama's inauguration continues now with my colleagues, gloria borger and john king. >> thank you, candy. good morning from the national mall. welcome to cnn's continuing coverage. our special coverage of the 2013 inauguration of president barack obama. if you tuned in to watch fareed zakaria, they have the weekend off. he'll be back at his regular time next week.

gloria, not a crowd behind us. little crowd behind us. the crowd will be here tomorrow for the ceremony, but today is really the day that matters if you read the constitution. >> that's right. today is the day the vice president was sworn in earlier today and the president gets sworn in just before noon and what a great seat we have, john, smack dab in the middle of the mall and, as you said, last night we had some crowds here. today it's a little bit early, i think. >> the smart people in washington know they have to get up very early tomorrow to get the prime location. so, they're resting a bit and maybe watching at home, watching in their hotels and as they watch, we at cnn have reporters and resources stationed all around the nation's capital today from capital hill to the white house. two full days of coverage and we begin this hour at, of course, the most central location, the white house. brianna keilar is there. just before noon, bri, the president will take the official oath of office. a brief ceremony today, but an important ceremony. he begins his second four years

and earlier the vice president took his oath at the naval observato observatory. take us through today. >> this was fascinating, john, because inauguration day falls on a sunday, we were able to see this very intimate ceremony at the vice president's official residence. he took the oath before just 120 people, mostly friends and family and the oath was given by associate justice of the supreme court, sonia sotomayor and the fourth female justice to deliver the oath. here's a taste of it. >> that i take this obligation freely -- >> that i take this obligation freely. >> without any mental reservation of purpose of evasion. >> without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge. >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge. >> the duties of the office that of which i am about to enter. so help me god. >> so help me god.

>> congratulations. >> thank you. >> now, you probably noticed the bible that the vice president had his hand on is huge. it is a five inch thick bible that is the biden family bible. it has been in the family since the late 1800s and it is the bible that the vice president has used for his swearings in while he was in the senate and also his son, bo biden used it to be sworn in as the attorney general of delaware. we, of course, john, are still awaiting the ceremony here at the white house in the blue room, which will take place just before noon. president obama will be sworn in, we are told, using the robinson family bible. the bible from his wife's family. >> hi, brianna, it's gloria, so, tell me, why are we having two inaugurations this time? today and tomorrow. >> this is sort of strange and i think fascinating because we do get to see both of these very different ceremonies. one very intimate before just

dozens of people and one before hundreds of thousands of people. it's because it falls on sunday and the last time that we saw this was 1985 with ronald reagan. where inauguration day as said in the constitution falls on a sunday, then the big public ceremony traditionally has then been held on the monday. what this means, though, and this is something that i find very fascinating, is that president obama, as of tomorrow, after he's been sworn in, will have been sworn in four times because of that flub back in 2009 and because of the fact that inauguration day falls on a sunday. the last time that happened, fdr, he was sworn in four times simply because he served four terms, not because of these interesting circumstances, gloria. >> bri, you mentioned that infamous flub four years ago where they were on different pages as the oath played out. what are they doing to prevent that from happening, again? >> we don't know exactly, john. but i think it's fair to say i

think they will be on the same page this time. as we heard from jeffrey toobin, there was a bit of a miscommunication. the chief justice had it planned out where he was going to pause and that information was sent to the inaugural committee and he ended up interrupting the chief justice, which seemed to throw chief justice john roberts off and he threw in faithfully, the word in the oath, but in the wrong place and that's why it was redone as the white house said out of an abundance of caution at the white house. i think they'll be on the same page this time. >> that was kind of interesting to watch because we were all waiting to see what was going to happen next. let's move on to cnn's jim acosta who is at the parade staging area and he's going to have one of the great inaugural broadcast locations during monday's festivities. he's going to be on a flat bed truck in the parade just right ahead of the president's limousine. imagine that.

jim, tell us what's going on where you are this morning as they all prepare for the big parade. >> yeah, i hate to brag, gloria, but i'm going to have the best view in town. just in front of the president's motorcade and just in case the people aren't aware of how this works. the president is sworn in and he has lunch and exits the capitol and gets in his motorcade and following him is this huge symphony of sights and sounds. eight different parade floats and we're in the parade float staging area. you can see them behind me. one honoring the president's home state of hawaii. his second home state of illinois. two other floats for the vice president's home states of pennsylvania and delaware and then a civil rights theme that is running through this parade, gloria. there will be three floats honoring the civil rights movement. one for the civil rights movement itself and one honoring dr. martin luther king. obviously, because inauguration

day is happening on mlk day and then one honoring the tuskkegee airmen, the african-american military aviators of world war ii. a lot of fun to watch and all of this is going to happen so quickly, i hope i have some time to take some pictures, gloria. it is going to be an amazing ride. >> we'll all be jealous. all be jealous of jim acosta tomorrow on that flatbed truck. we'll talk to jim today throughout the festivities. security always such a big event and chris lawrence is covering that several blocks away on the national mall. chris, the president's ceremony will be private and what are officials most concerned about at this moment? >> everywhere, really, john. in a sense, this inauguration and parade is really the truest definition of national security because just a couple minutes

after the president today takes the oath of office the d.c. police will be deputizing thousands. 2,000 to 3,000 other police officers who have come here to help them over the next couple of days. they also pulled in 6,000 national guard troops from other states to help, as well. but, really, they've got the responsibility, not only for the area around here and the mall near the capital grounds, but also that entire parade route leading into the area around the white house. the secret service, obviously, is heading up security and they have a joint command base set up out in the suburbs where they are basically pulling in live feeds of thousands of surveillance cameras. there is literally almost no where you can walk anywhere down here near the mall from down here to the white house where you are not being seen by some camera. just about every agency has committed those cameras and they are watching those feeds continuously. john?

>> thanks, chris. you know, people need to remember, whatever you're doing, big brother or someone is watching. thanks a lot, chris. and in less than two hours, president obama will be sworn in for his second term. but up next, once the inauguration ends, then what? president obama's second term ayend agenda faces a very uncertain future when it comes to congress. we'll talk to two members when just stepped down but probably have ideas on how to get it all done. funny how that happens when you leave the congress. barney frank and steve latourette are here with us next. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors

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inaugurations are a celebrations of our democracy and, as always, a festive atmosphere. for this one the president should have that, a festive atmosphere as we swear in our president, in this case, for four more years. but the celebration in this case may be the calm before the storm as president obama begins his second term. taxes, spending, deficits, gun control, immigration. a lot to do and not a great environment to get it done. but with us now, two men who may not have to worry too much about that, but who may give us great insights if possible to get great things done. barney frank, the former democratic congressman from massachusetts and steve latourette, republican from ohio. first to you, congressman, as the democrat, what does the president have to do differently in the second term to have a more cooperative, working environment. to you, sir, what does the republican party need to do to try to get some things done?

>> i have to differ with the preface, john. >> i thought you might. >> barack obama -- look, this notion that partisanship has taken over. it began when barack obama became president. i was chairman of the financial service committee of 2007 in the bush administration and i worked very closely with hank paulson, secretary of the treasury. we worked on putting fannie mae and freddie mac to stop the lawsuits. george bush went to harry reid and nancy pelosi in december of 2007. he said the economy is slipping, i need a stimulus and they worked with him to give him the kind he can sign. then 2008, the terrible crisis and it was a very partisan thing in which the bush administration got more support from democrats and republicans in the final vote. then comes the election of barack obama and mitch mcconnell's announcement that his number one agenda item is to defeat president obama. we have, i think, a productive 2009 and 2010 and then in 2010, a group gets elected in the

house, in particular, we don't believe in governance. not totally pessimistic. the way to go we've seen in the last three major issues in the house, a split within the republican party where main stream conservatives of the bob dole variety have aligned with the majority of democrats. they've been opposed by a majority of republicans in the house, but not of the whole house and speaker boehner, to his credit, has been allowing a coalition to come together and i hope what happens is that the main stream conservativism of the republican party continue to fight back. >> he hopes the republican party remains divided so democrats can get something done. >> no, i hope the conservatives in the republican party assert themselves the way they have in the last three votes and work with us and marginalize their eextreme wing. >> i have to tell you. >> i think that's the same thing. >> i disagree a little bit with congressman. i happen to be one of the great stream republicans which comes from the main state of ohio which is the epicenter of the

universe. secondly, mrs. pelosi becomes the speaker with president obama and there wasn't any bipartisanship. there was ramming through the stimulus and there was ramming through of cap and trade and no amendments, no discussions. boehner has reopened that up. this is a new beginning, the president's second term and if both sides take the view and sort of take a deep breath and say let's do the doable rather than setting ourselves up for 2014. >> how long does he have? >> do have to disagree with the total misreading. i was chairman of the committee and the notion we ran things through and i worked very closely with the republicans, with ben bernanke and all the republican bush appointees and we tried very hard to -- >> let's look forward, though. can people put these different opinions aside. you disagree with his take on how things went on. that's one of the problems. everybody in washington has been dug in.

let's start gun control. doable? >> this deterioration started in 2010 with tea party domination. and what i'm saying now, it's promising. the last three votes on the fiscal cliff, on the hurricane bill and now, apparently coming we have a coming together, but the major dynamic right now is the main stream conservative responsible republicans against the extremists who had dominated that party and, again, who appears to be -- >> let me ask the republican here. do you believe that there are now enough republicans. we saw speaker boehner bring up something without a majority of the majority on the fiscal cliff, which was a big move for him. so, now, is that the beginning of something where, you know, you can actually see a way where the president. let me ask him, let me ask him. >> and he did on the hurricane. is there a way now that he can, that the president can work with

the speaker and republicans on this? >> well, of course. but two things. one, barney's definition coming together is when 30 of us appeal and agree with their position. >> that is his position. >> coming together is finding common ground and common ground means that both sides have to say, you know, i'm not getting 100% of what i want. this scenario is, you get most of what you want and a few republicans are shamed into crossing the line. let's take the debt limit discussion, for instance. the president won the election and all about taxes and he got his taxes. $60 billion a year and runs the government for five days. he has to challenge his party on spending, which he has not been willing to do. >> first of all, we're not talking about 30, we had 85 votes. it doesn't help if you caricature. the fiscal cliff a deal/deal and joe biden. we got less than we wanted. i would have liked to have based taxes on people making $300,000 a year. but we had 85 republicans for that. on the hurricane, that was a very bipartisan deal in the

senate and the notion that we were going to peel off a few, that shouldn't be partisan at all. after spending, i agree. here's the problem. the biggest increase in spending in the last, in this century has been a military spending. unpaid for in iraq, an unnecessary war. afghanistan, military spending else where. i very much want to cut spending but people who want to exempt the military from spending cuts. >> you have to have the last word on that. >> every penny to the pentagon and every penny the government spends, we still borrow $300 billion a year and his party has to come to grips with that. >> gentlemen, as you step aside, we might see you temporarily in the united states senate and see how that plays out in massachusetts. hopefully, hopefully in the spirit -- >> senator frank, that would be kind of interesting for a few months. >> no comment he says. >> all right, that's good. >> that's a yes then. >> that was not a filibuster. after the break, an update on the very serious situation playing out in algeria.

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welcome back. algerian troops have ended a hostage crisis at a gas facility after three days of chaos, during which dozens of hostages and hostage takers have reportedly been killed. the state department says at least one american is among the dead. however, hundreds of algerian workers and foreigners were freed as the standoff ended. michigan congressman mike rogers is chairman of the permanent select committee on intelligence. he's here with us this morning, thanks so much for being with us this morning. can you update us on this? we know that one person is killed, but there are americans unaccounted for. >> there are a number of americans that are unaccounted for. and it's going to take some time for all this to filter out to get the exact information. you know, it's a very remote place. it's in the middle of the desert and closer to the libyan border than it is to the city of al

jeer and because the algerians wanted to handle this by themselves, that's why you had information and numbers all over the place. it will probably take two, three, four, five days for the full picture to come out in an acaerate account of all the individuals that were at the facility. >> part of the early picture were of a blood bath. we'll see if that changes as it goes forward. based on what you know so far, i understand information will change. did the algerian do the right thing in your view or should they have waited and negotiated? >> the algerians are a very proud nation. it is a police state. and the one thing that they were worried about is that something like this get away from them. this is about 20% of their revenue as the natural gas production. excuse me, for the europeans, 20% of their net take of natural gas. this was a huge problem for them. they believed if they got into the international negotiation on how to end the crisis, you would have had to talk to london and paris and tokyo and washington, d.c. they decided they were going to

handle it their way and they had a different standard. we would have been probably more aggressive at protecting the hostages at the end of the day. that's not the standard they went into. they wanted to end and end it quickly. >> we were effectively forced to take a back seat here when, in fact, we may not have wanted to. >> we had different sets of capabilities and we did offer some of those capabilities. they weren't welcomed by the algerians. >> so, that's a yes. >> you know, clearly, they did not want us or the other hostage flaegz stalths nation states involved in the taking. >> if the new al qaeda isn't a big corporate entity that can launch 9/11-style attacks and an example at the moment. what is your sense of the quality of u.s. intelligence as to who they are and what they're planning? >> here's the thing. that's where i'm going to disagree a little bit. the administration is saying they're not targeted against the

united states. certainly, that was the state department's view in june. that does not comport with what we know, zawahiri has been saying for years, since '06 and taken the reins of being incharge. he has encouraged them to find western targets. very capable force and now living off of all those weapon systems that are in libya. why the united states are trying to figure out why we should do more and in the hands of extremists and mali and i argue they are more dangerous to the united states and our allies and every time they get a victory, every time, to them, this hostage-taking event, even though they lost everybody, it was a victory for them. holding some territory in yemen, a victory and it helps recruiting. that's the problem we're having here. their success means that they're recruiting more people.

>> the take away from this is -- >> they're growing more dangerous. they'll be growing in numbers and we have to have an overarching policy. we can't say it's just yemen, just mali, just tunisia. we have to put pressure all of these groups on sardine and the united movement of jihad and all of its affiliates at the same time. >> thanks very much. >> sober take, chairman of the house committee on intelligence. appreciate it very much. when we come back after the break, back to the inauguration and offer their perspective on how to navigate the potential perils of a second presidential term. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away...

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james buchanan 1857. keep going on the trivia. second-term by the unique issues that surround them. joe lockhart, and tom davis, a republican congressman from the state of virginia who was in the congress during the second clinton term and the second term of president george w. bush. gentlemen, let's start with a simple question. joe, to you, is there a second-term curse that all second-term presidents face or is that mythology? >> i think it's mythology. it's circumstances. i think this second term is starting with a little wind at his back. remember, the president came in in a terrible economic crisis. you know, if you listen to a lot of the economists, things are turning around. that's a significant difference

and, you know, in politics, you face head winds and sometimes the wind behind your back. it really feels like this could be a very positive time. >> i don't think it's a myth. second terms have been tough, traditionally, but no magic to it. getting the economy under "control" will be very, very important. the president faces one problem, though, and we become almost a parliamentary system in the actions of legislative bodies and he's got a republican house that he's got to find a rhythm to work with him. president clinton did that, joe, his second term we were able to balance the budget for four years, but it's difficult and they have not found a rhythm yet and until they do that, i think it limits what he can get done. >> interesting to me because in an early press conference the president said he was well aware of what happened to many other presidents in their second terms and clearly referring to an overreach that you have with second-term presidents who were thinking about their legacy. joe, as you look at, as you look at president obama and you look

at his agenda, gun control, immigration reform, climate change, got to get through all the fiscal problems first. i mean, is that overreach? >> i don't think so. there are things that he has to do. climate change is a really difficult issue. not a consensus here in town, but there's -- it's in our national interest. on some of the other things. immigration is an interesting one because in my view, republicans need it more than democrats need it. if you look at the elections without being able to reach out to hispanics, republicans a permanent minority party. the demographics tell you that. there are circumstances here that i think should lead to optimism and i don't see president obama as someone who does overreach. so, i don't see that as a problem. >> is there a point in the second term where a president's own party stops listening to -- i want to ask you as the republican here. the opposition to the iraq war was on the rise and he won

re-election and late in the term they rallied maybe, at the very end, around the fiscal crises. does a president lose his own party's attention as they worry about a difficult mid-term and six-year itch. >> tomorrow. >> as you get closer to the mid-term elections which traditionally the president's party takes a loss and members start looking. that's what happened traditionally. with president bush, it started with katrina and i had been campair chairman and you can see it going down hill. you still had believers going into '06 but when we got shel c shellacked people were hoping he would go away. >> katrina was one of the unaccepted events. a piece in "new york times" where one of president obama's aides called them locusts. these sort of unanticipated events. monica lewinsky, unanticipated event. for the clinton administration. so, you put that on top of what he's got to do, it becomes difficult. >> but i think the real lesson

is even with, as john will remember, we had a fund-raising issue in 1997 and lewinsky investigation. what drove things, we had a strong economy and that gave the president remained popular because people felt that their lives were getting better every day and every year. i think if the economy turns around the way some people think it will, that will be a bigger force than any unanticipated things and that's why a president remains relevant, as long as he remains popular. his ability and the most interesting thing, i think, you'll see tomorrow and you saw already, a president's change is he is going to spend less time here talking to members and more times out in the country saying i want you to talk to your members and i think he learned that very important lesson. >> to that point, had the economy turned around and had been good going into the elections this year, this wouldn't have been a close election. >> that creates long-term problems for republicans demgraphically to give them incentives to work with the republicans on some issues.

>> how does a democrat get his fellow republicans who say the president didn't care if you're a house republican. the president carried my district, i don't need to listen to him in the second term. how does he do that? >> we redistrict our selves into an extreme congress, but one way is to look at every issue and this is what president clinton did successfully. look at every issue and i'll create my own coalition for this issue. and we got more done on trade than any recent president. so, it's really sort of building a coalition per each issue that comes up. >> let's see. let's see. >> we'll be optimist at the beginning. >> thanks, guys. in the next hour, the big hour, the president will be inaugurated for a second term. we'll go to the white house right after this break to speak to the president senior advisory valerie chair people are saying "progress-oh!"

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. and in the west wing, there may be no closer ally to the president than valerie jarrett she stood with the president with the highs and lows of his career. she is with us now. senior adviser, of course. she joins us live from the white

house. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> i have to ask you, so, what's the mood inside that house behind you? have you spoken with the president? first lady, about to be sworn in. >> yeah, he's so excited. they both are. it's just a wonderful, wonderful moment and we're enjoying the moment and get right back to work. >> i just have to ask you, since you're such a close friend of the president's, can you share with us how he's changed over these last four years? >> you know, i think in the convention speech, the first lady made this point very well. she said, he hasn't changed as a president. it is really revealed who he is. he's been tested, as you said, good times and bad. i think he's proven that he has been able to keep his focus and the best interest of the american people and move his agenda forward. i think he's more confident now after four years in the job. i think he understands the challenges and the opportunities

and he is as energized as i've ever seen him about moving our country forward over the next four years. >> valerie, it's john king. >> hey, john. >> congratulations on this important morning. what are you doing and what is the president doing to deal with something with all second-term presidents. a burnout factor. you lose your "a" team. a lot of cabinet members move on and senior staff move on and those who stay, you're being kind to the president and stay on. i assume you're pretty tired. what are you going to do with the burnout question? >> i think you're right. some people for a wide range of issues decide to move on but i have been participating in the recruitment of new people and he will have a combination of some cabinet members that will stay on. secretary sebelius who will go through the affordable care act and janet napolitano responsible for our homeland security and he announced his national security team. i think, together, everybody will be energized.

he's basically said, look, if you're not in for it and running out of energy, then you should move on because he is as energetic as i've ever seen him and ready to move forward with the next term. i don't think burnout is going to be a problem. >> so, you just mentioned two key women in the president's cabinet, but you know the president has been under fire lately for not having enough women in top positions. there's that famous picture, valerie, where your leg was showing but that was about the only female part we saw in that photograph. can you tell us a little bit about the president's concern about promoting more women to key jobs? >> look, the president has been surrounded by strong women throughout his entire life. raised by a single mom and lived with his grandmother who was a great role model for him and married to a very competent wife and his first cabinet reflected

the diversity of our country and put women in charge of key initiatives, such as his deputy chief of staff and now kathleen sebelius is implementing it. his cabinet when makess best decision when he is surrounded by people with different perspectives and give him their best ideas. one picture does not speak a thousand words. i spent a lot of time in the oval office and i'm in there with a great number of women who he listens to and whose counsel and advice he trusts greatly. >> valerie, one thing that carries over to the second term is divided government. perhaps in recent days a bit of progress or detente. what does he think he needs to do to have things different in a second term? try to find some new way to build a relationship with the republicans in washington or to

get outside of washington and try to get the american people to push the republicans? >> it's both. as he has said often, i think he regrets early on in the first term, he was focusing on the policy and he missed being out and about and talking directly to the american people. when he has done that, it has put an enormous amount of pressure, particularly on the republicans in congress to do the right thing. so, he's going to both continue to work with them and seek common ground and i think you'll hear a bit of that in his speech tomorrow about how he may not agree on everything, but there have not to be ways that we can come together and solve some of the challenges we have because he believes in his heart that we have such a great country and we have so much potential and if people would just put their short-term political interest aside and focus on the american people and engage the american people in the process, as he intends to do, then we are still capable of great things. big things. >> valerie jarrett, thanks so much for taking the time to be with us this morning.

>> my pleasure. >> kind of a busy day for you. >> it's a great day. thank you, all. take care. >> thank you. >> kind of a busy day. >> just a little busy. next, what we can expect from vice president biden in the second term? that's always a big question, right? we're joined by van jones and candy crowley. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal.

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washington this weekend may not actually be the president, but it may be his vice president joe biden. a recent poll conducted by cnn/"time" magazine and orc international found that joe biden's approval rating is a huge 59%. that's up 12 points from where he was this time last year and it's four points higher than the president's, which, by the way, is pretty high for the president. joining us to discuss this and more van jones democratic strategist and cnn contributor and we have alex castellanos host of state of the union and candy crowley. let me ask you folks. candy, joe biden 59%. that's as good as it gets. >> he's been visible. sometimes you look at those polls and joe biden has been out there, right? he saved the day with mitch mcconnell up on capitol hill with the budget deal or at least not going off the fiscal cliff. he was out front with the gun

proposal, which was probably for him more show than actual work there. i mean, they had an end they wanted to get to and he got there with various meetings. so, he's been out there. people are now really comfortable with him and he's always been, as you know, a very comfortable politician. >> too comfortable. >> before you join the conversation, let's play for our audience what i'm going to call the paging dr. freud moment so far of our inaugural weekend. this is the vice president of the united states. last night he just happened to be at the iowa state inaugural ball, curious. listen. >> i'm proud to be president of the united states. but i am prouder to be -- i am proud, i am proud to be vice president of the united states. president barack obama's vice president. >> oops. >> oops.

>> god bless joe biden. he makes politics so entertaining. i think he should not be taken as lightly as i think some republicans do take him for president of the united states. when do vice presidents get elected president? when they run as a sequel. george w. bush ran as reagan 2. when they found out he wasn't, he lost. al gore ran against clinton. left clinton at home and he lost. one of joe biden's great strengths is his loyalty. he's respected, i think, on both sides of the aisle for one if he tells you something, he's going to do it. he keeps his word. two, the loyalty to the president. so, he gets all the benefits of the good things that obama's done, but he almost gets a pass on the negatives because while he's the vice president, he has to be loyal. so, if hillary clinton for health reasons or otherwise decides not to go, he's going to we, i think, by far the strongest contender. >> do you think he can take on

hillary clinton? i want to cover that. i want to cover that, by the way. >> i don't think anybody can take on hillary clinton. right now she is a prezumpative favorite. democrats need joe biden. they need him now because he's the best politician in this town. he understands there are three branches of government and you have to sit down and you have to figure out a deal and he's good at it. we need him later because if hillary clinton does not run, there is no alternative. he is, he then becomes the inheritor of the obama era and we need him. >> but you do get a sense, though, that you're watching a reality show some of some kind. he's walking this high wire and at any time there could be a call for hard times but it helps him. >> there is actually a real petition on the white house website asking for joe biden reality show. it's got 2,000 signatures. >> i'd watch. >> let me just put a tiny bit of reality into this. that is, you do have some folks. martin o'malley comes to mind.

it is hard for me to see in the progression of history when bill clinton became president, a generation had passed that world war ii group had moved and were no longer going to be presidents. it seems to me we are now past the vietnam stage wheith presidt obama. it is difficult for me. i think joe biden wants to be president and he'll run for president at this very moment, but i think it's a tough sell for both vice president biden and hillary clinton because you are going back a generation. part of this president's appeal has been to young people. >> it is. my experience in all of this is the same that once america moves forward a generation, it almost never moves back and that was a problem for the mccains and even the romneys of this world. however -- when you're the vp, you get one shot to extend. you are defined by the guy above you. so, you get to ride on the previous generation. >> he gets younger. >> he's the youngest guy in this town, too. >> benjamin button. >> i talked to a veteran

democratic actrist strategist who has been involved and she told me within 48 hours she got a call from both joe biden and martin omool o'malley about whe you in 2016. dick cheney was not going to run, we knew he was not going to run. you saw his influence in the second bush term go on decline. joe biden is saying he is prepared to run to keep his influence or is he running? >> i think it's hard to know that. i think people forget how important it is in this town, the personal relationships. people talked often enough that obama sometimes can be a and we will appreciate over the next two years in particular what a good retail politician this man is. i don't think anything gets done in this administration without joe biden either in front of it or behind the scenes making it work ask that will mean something to democrats. >> however, we should add he turned 70 this year, i believe. he tells you all the time how

healthy he is. but in response to your question, he does want to run. it is very clear he wants to run. >> one thing that helps, too, is that it's going to hurt, i think, the other contenders and help biden is that nothing new grows under the shade of a big tree. when bush was president, we m missed a generation of young leaders. they're only coming right now. the rubios and all that. eight years of obama in that shadow, we're not going to see a lot of new faces get air time, get that kind of publicity. so, people who have brands like biden and hillary -- >> we have to cut you off. i have to make a plug here. tomorrow after inauguration i have an interview with none other than joe biden. >> anything can happen. after the break, we bring a poet's touch to this hour's coverage. stay with us. ♪

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before we turn our coverage over to anderson cooper and wolf blitzer. we want to show you what may be considered an inaugural tradition. taylor the ceremony to their own personal taste and interest and three presidents chose to do that with poetry at four different inaugurations. an original work of poetry during the public ceremony started with robert frost at the inauguration of john f. kennedy back in 1961. now, bright sunlight prevented him from reading what he had written but he did recite another poem from memory.

attempt to close the door on the campaign season of 2012 and if he follows the terms look forward to the new term with anticipation and optimism. >> here on the path of this new day, you may have the grace to look up and out and into your sister's eyes. and into your brother's face. your country and say simply, very simply, with hope. good morning. >> we know what we have done and what we have said. how we have grown degree by slow degree, believing ourselves towards all we have tried to become. just and compassionate, equal,